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Mexoz
01-25-2008, 11:55 PM
Hello all ,

Like all of you , i always wanted to draw and always believed that i can draw .

But it wasnt untill 2008 i started to draw and im 20 years old now
so i missed a lot of years that i could've improved in

I never tried or knew how to actully draw untill i came across a tutorial on the internet on how to draw an eye, i got very excited and thought " what the heck ! let's give it a try" so i picked up an HB-2 pencil and an A4 paper and did the Eye drawing from the tutorial. [sorry i lost the link to the tutorial]

Here's the result i got;

http://www.hostdump.com/images/85734200801090921.jpg

That was my first drawing ever

I learned from that lesson how to outline and how to shade and blend and how to use the eraser [ u can notice that in the iris ]

And based on what i've learn from that tutorial
A few days later i decided to test myself and try to draw a portrait without the help of any tutorial.

I wanted to see how far i can go by myself, so i chose a picture and with the same pencil and paper i tried to draw it ...

and boy do i suck!
im very very disappointed by it and i feel like i dont have it in me anymore.

here's my second -and last- drawing...

http://www.hostdump.com/images/79906IMAGE_00020.jpg


I know it look wrong and pale and nothing like the picture at all, here (http://www.hostdump.com/images/699236.jpg)'s the reference picture. [i turned it to black and white when i draw it ]


But since i dont know anyone who can draw , i thought maybe you all had an awful drawing your first time ?, i dont know , so i had to ask the talented artists here in zindy zone forums...

was your first drawing suck like mine does ?
Do you see hope for me ? Should i continue drawing ?

And please i'm not looking for encouragement or anything like that, i just need honesty, So please .. be honest

Your opinions means a lot to me,

Thank you,

Corey
01-26-2008, 01:08 AM
Keep at it man. Dont give up! I think you have some raw talent.

More practice=more skill. Skill will refine your'e talent. That's what I'm working on as well.

KLSADAKO
01-26-2008, 02:37 AM
Ur're to hard on urself, these are some of ur first drawings ever, u can't expect too much, and giving up is like a easy way out.

It's like if I tried playing Tennis for the first time, I would sux.

Just keep drawing, learn the basics, like proportions, shading, etc..

give urself a chance..

Good Luck :)

J.J
01-26-2008, 11:22 AM
I just wanted to show you my own progress, to show you that you can improve even if you start out late. This was one of my first portrait I made in 06. You have to keep your head up and stay positive! :)
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Griparn/Uruk_Hai.jpg

Around 15 portraits(1.5 years) later I drawed this.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Griparn/Keira_Knightly_by_ibetufold.jpg

imcold
01-26-2008, 11:41 AM
Obviously you can't create a perfect drawing on the first try; you need to gain some experience first, as we all did. My first face drawings were crap too, I didn't use shading at all and I always drew small pictures, several per one sheet of paper, so keeping the right proportions of one face on the whole sheet was quite a problem.
If you like drawing, there's no reason to stop. The learning process is quite fun, I enjoy it despite of few frustrating moments :P I don't feel that my drawings would be perfect, there's still space for improvement - and even though I don't draw much, I don't wanna cease drawing ever ;)
Have fun and good luck!

ps.: And I don't think it's ever late to start, if you can hold pencil in your hand; I started few months before I turned 20, too.

imaginary
01-26-2008, 12:25 PM
well I have to tell you last year I haven't drawn for almost a year and when I started again I had to practice to find it in me again... I had to practice again drawing AND painting.. but now it comes back so I want you to know don't lose hope, you'll be alright :)

Mexoz
01-26-2008, 06:13 PM
Thank you all for ur comments !
it really meant a lot to me !

to tell you the truth. i dont think i can leave drawing forever , i was really frustrated when i wrote this thread cuz i was just finished drawing that portrait. :roll:

Cory, Thanks for ur compliment. i dont think i have much talent its merely a skill and i'll try to improve it.
and i wont give up , at least not now :P

KLSADAKO , ur right , im being hard on myself cuz i always expect more. i was expecting something more like ur drawing of Maria. speaking of Masha, have u seen the match ? she totaly kicked Ivanovic's ass! :cool:

J.J , try to upload the pics again. it doesnt show. but im sure it wasnt as crap as my portrait is =P

imcold , im really glad to hear that ur first drawing was crap ! seriously , i am :mrgreen: , it gives me confidence that im not the only one who suck at the beginning. and , boy ur really good at dealing with light and shading ! i can see that clearly in "My brother" portrait! good job!

imaginary , well u already "got it" . u know that u "can do it". but im still not sure if i "got it" or not , if i can do better than that portrait or not. but i wont stop here and live the rest of my life wondring what i could've done if i gave it a little bit more effort. by the way , i loved ur "woman at the bar" painting and "woman in the dark" . but ur missing one thing . u need to give ur painting and darwing special names , i mean more creative names cuz they totaly deserve so!


I have a question to you guys. im going to try to draw another portrait and this time i wont have high expectations so i dont get shocked. but i was wondring what kind of pencil do you guys use ? i know different types gives different level of shading. but what's the best type of them all ? cuz at this point i dont think i can draw with more then one pencil. so if im going to use only one pencil what should it be ? im using HB-2 now.

i'll show you my next drawing whenever i finish it. this time i think i'll go for an anime girl face , it seems alot easier then real human face. <--- i feel like im cheating! :roll:

DivineRAiN
01-26-2008, 09:29 PM
your first drawings look a **** of a lot better than my first 3D model. This is really horrible...

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/media/folder_1/file_48471.jpg

that was in march 2003. I imagine my first drawing was worse.
A little improvement. This was probably my 5th or 6th attempt

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_95/display_946264.jpg



what Robert Chang (Lunatique) said on his site is true

2)I get emails from people all the time, asking me why they couldn't reproduce the same result in their painting from following my online tutorials. It always surprised me that anyone would think a tutorial is all it takes to get the same results that it took me half my lifetime so far to learn. They would ask me, "What is it that you did between the step before the last and the finished work?" or "What brushes did you use? Why can't I get the same look you did?" My reply to them have always been the same:
"It's not the brushes or any other secrets that I've held back--it is simply experience, patience, and practice needed on your part."
If an experienced guitar player showed you how to finger a bunch of chords and showed you all the notes on a guitar solo, you wouldn't automatically think that you could play just like him, would you? Then why would you believe a painting tutorial can turn you into an experienced painter? The only thing that could get you there is lots of practice, and years of hardwork. The painting tutorials are just chords and notes that I showed you--you're the one that has to practice the until your fingers bleed.


that pretty much sums it up.

Chart
01-26-2008, 10:19 PM
You know what, I didn't even have to read your little fic to give you an answer. Of course you shouldn't stop drawing! You like it? Then never quit! It's my own experience that with dedication to what we like, comes improvement.
You just have to be confident, be willing to learn and be willing to study ;)

imcold
01-27-2008, 09:24 AM
im really glad to hear that ur first drawing was crap ! seriously , i am :mrgreen:
heheh... I enjoy drawing crap, it's much easier and doesn't take much effort and time :D And thanks. On the pencils - there's not really a "best", depends on what you're going to do: dark/light portrait - overall lightness of the picture, skin color, hair color... I use HB and B or 3B most of the time, for example. Harder one for most of the skin and softer for hair / areas with low light. You'll find a style that will suit you, no worries.

JCD
01-27-2008, 04:12 PM
Mexoz, I agree with the others: I think you only should stop drawing if you're really not interested. I know how frustrating it is when your drawings aren't what you want them to be, but believe me, everyone who you admire now once was like that too. Perhaps you could try using grids or something like that, they help a lot!

By the way, I'm afraid I still have some of my first drawings up on this forum -__-" They're from the time when I had somewhat the same problem as you. So if you want some confidence, you perhaps should take a look at them :P

DKBonnes
01-27-2008, 07:15 PM
All the advise you need is actually already given in my opinion, though, if you have a look at the very first and last page in my art thread you'll see what a difference two years can make in your drawings. And i might add, i'm way older then 20 years (closer to 30 then to 20), so no i don't think you should stop drawing if you like doing it, just give it some time and also... Nope, your not to old to learn to draw. Your never to old to learn to draw in my opinion :)

Cbree
01-29-2008, 01:39 AM
Don't quit at all. Draw, and draw, and draw - and just keep drawing!
That's all i can say. The majority of my drawings, i can't stand!
They make me wince, every time i look at them again...

Everybody has the same hang ups - and i think if you were inspired
enough to pick up a pencil, and just give it a go - then you're already
on your way to becoming a drawing enthusiast. All of your bad pictures
will help you to realise, how great your good pictures really are...

I always keep my bad pictures, they're great for reflecting upon, and they
remind you of the things, that don't quite work for you. So you have a
pretty good idea, in determining what you do and don't like about your
images and style in general. Keep at it :)

Mexoz
01-29-2008, 12:54 PM
Thank you all for your advises and support !

Anyways whether i'll be good someday or not, the fact is, whenever i see a white paper and a pencil i feel this great urge to draw something and i cant resist it. I'm sure you all know what im talking about.
So i wont stop , as long as there's white papers and pencils out there , i wont stop =)

I'm now willing to dedicate more time and effort to learn drawing , in other words , im taking it seriously now
So i was wondring if there's any books on how to draw you guys recommend ?
Cause i think i need one to help me set the basics first.

And hopefuly soon i'll show you a drawing of mine and you will all go like " WOW , who draw this ? , what ? , the guy who draw that crappy portrait a couple of months ago did this !! holy crap !!! " :mrgreen:

yeah im being very positive .. i know -_-!

Cbree
01-29-2008, 07:39 PM
I just went into the local bookstore, even supermarkets - and found nice cheap little learn to draw books. I started out on books that were for young children. Lol. Eventually made my way through more technical books...

Hmm.. This isn't quite a learn to draw book, but it helps inspire me, and open my mind when i'm in one of those inspirational lows - and that's Boris Vallego and Julie Bell's Sketchbook.

Valeriiej
02-04-2008, 04:10 PM
Everyone has to make a start. Iam 13 years old and i started with drawing cartoons .
Now iam trying to do people and stuff like that . Never give up .
Keep the spirit on !

ReDeMptION DeNIeD
02-11-2008, 01:06 AM
Definitely don't stop.

quicksdraw
02-11-2008, 08:05 PM
It is interesting that you would post this topic and I love this discussion. I have only been drawing for a short time as well. The irony is, that I can't draw an eye that fantastic as the eye you drew.....YET.... I am damn well going to keep trying to draw mirror realistic eyes with depth and "glow".I wish u would have saved the link to that eye tutorial. For me,as a newbie,it's all about "Patience" "Persistance". ****, I remember my first portrait attempt;looked at tutorials;thought;'No big deal,easy as pie!"...NOT!!!! lol...I ended up getting so frustrated,I TRACED HIM!LOL And he still is not finished and has no likeness to who I was drawing! Since then, I have done a few more portraits...and each one seems to get a little better and a little better and so on. Its like Ken said, You can't take a set of golfclubs, and go practice a few hours,and expect to go out and shoot par!lol...(oh he was talking tennis lol) So stick with it, and so will I and the main thing is, stay FUN with it! good luck :JEff

isisasuke
02-12-2008, 02:03 PM
you like drawing?....yes? then you mustn't stop it and keep practice, your drawings are well, shadows are very good, just little help with proportions and you will draw better than all of us^^

Cold Shiva
02-12-2008, 06:40 PM
OK, I didn't even have to read your story to give you an answer:

Don't stop!! It is not always the result that counts; that is mear for the petting compliments from others. Important is that you enjoy it and you are satisfied with it. Of course that does not mean you don't take any advice anymore... :D

For a first it looks quite alright; better then mines and I've seen miracles happen here from one of the worst sketchers into superb artist, so.....

CONTINUE !!!!!

Rosekill
02-13-2008, 07:13 AM
I think u should definately keep drawing because NO-ONE is perfect when they first start drawing... u have to practice and grow into the skill .. if u stop u'll never know what could have been.
you also cant let yourself get into the habbit of thinking that you should quit the first time u try something or you will never get anywhere :)

Im not trying to come across rude. i hope my comment helped in your decision making :)

gcusea
02-18-2008, 09:24 AM
the more the practice the better the next.... continue is what im getting at

princess K
02-18-2008, 01:48 PM
I think you should keep drawing, I never used to be able to draw for peanuts. Only resently have I found the sorts of stuff I can draw. Personally I thought your eye was very good. You could always try drawing different things, animals/cartoons etc and see what your best at :) Hope this helped xx

caleb
02-18-2008, 08:15 PM
Hello all ,

Like all of you , i always wanted to draw and always believed that i can draw .

But it wasnt untill 2008 i started to draw and im 20 years old now
so i missed a lot of years that i could've improved in

I never tried or knew how to actully draw untill i came across a tutorial on the internet on how to draw an eye, i got very excited and thought " what the heck ! let's give it a try" so i picked up an HB-2 pencil and an A4 paper and did the Eye drawing from the tutorial. [sorry i lost the link to the tutorial]

Here's the result i got;

http://www.hostdump.com/images/85734200801090921.jpg

That was my first drawing ever

I learned from that lesson how to outline and how to shade and blend and how to use the eraser [ u can notice that in the iris ]

And based on what i've learn from that tutorial
A few days later i decided to test myself and try to draw a portrait without the help of any tutorial.

I wanted to see how far i can go by myself, so i chose a picture and with the same pencil and paper i tried to draw it ...

and boy do i suck!
im very very disappointed by it and i feel like i dont have it in me anymore.

here's my second -and last- drawing...

http://www.hostdump.com/images/79906IMAGE_00020.jpg


I know it look wrong and pale and nothing like the picture at all, here (http://www.hostdump.com/images/699236.jpg)'s the reference picture. [i turned it to black and white when i draw it ]


But since i dont know anyone who can draw , i thought maybe you all had an awful drawing your first time ?, i dont know , so i had to ask the talented artists here in zindy zone forums...

was your first drawing suck like mine does ?
Do you see hope for me ? Should i continue drawing ?

And please i'm not looking for encouragement or anything like that, i just need honesty, So please .. be honest

Your opinions means a lot to me,

Thank you,

Drawing is something that you can only get better at. It takes practice, and then a lot more. But, once you get the hang of it, most people envy you and wish they could do that too. Little do they know, that anybody can draw as long as you like to, you put your heart into it, and you work your heiny off!

Stay with it if you love to do it. Don't do something that will make you unhappy.

Peace.